Comments on: High Priced Flops: Which one do you regret most? http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most Cigar reviews with a video twist Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:11:13 +0000 hourly 1 By: OlivaSerieV http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/#comment-64682 OlivaSerieV Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:40:50 +0000 http://www.stogiereview.com/?p=599#comment-64682 When I know a cigar is supposed to be good and I had a bad experience I will typically do the research again to make sure I am getting the vitola that is considered the best/highest rated in a line. Then I try to acquire it again from an alternate source in case my previous source may have mis-handled them or gotten a bad batch. At the point I am re-evaluating I almost always use H2O as my beverage of choice so I can really let the cigar stand on its own. For those who had issue with the Camacho 3x Maduro I recommend trying the 6x60 or Robusto as I think they are superior smokes to the Torpedo which turns south near the end or the elusive 11/18 which can be kind of Boom or Bust! If you are a maduro lover you need to keep trying this cigar as it is maduro paradise that can't be found anywhere else. Padron's with ammonia is a cigar that with some age would probably be excellent like most Padron's. Cohiba's were IMO better long ago. I have a friend who deals strictly with Cubans and I will occasionally get a Cohiba he recommends, I think the Siglo V was the last one he gave the thumbs up and it was pretty good just very expensive. My bust Cigar would have to go to the CAO Vision. How they ever got on the CA Top 25 list seems criminal to me. I have tried to convince myself I like the cigar to no avail as I really wanted one of those jacked up neon humi's. When I know a cigar is supposed to be good and I had a bad experience I will typically do the research again to make sure I am getting the vitola that is considered the best/highest rated in a line. Then I try to acquire it again from an alternate source in case my previous source may have mis-handled them or gotten a bad batch.

At the point I am re-evaluating I almost always use H2O as my beverage of choice so I can really let the cigar stand on its own.

For those who had issue with the Camacho 3x Maduro I recommend trying the 6×60 or Robusto as I think they are superior smokes to the Torpedo which turns south near the end or the elusive 11/18 which can be kind of Boom or Bust! If you are a maduro lover you need to keep trying this cigar as it is maduro paradise that can’t be found anywhere else.

Padron’s with ammonia is a cigar that with some age would probably be excellent like most Padron’s.

Cohiba’s were IMO better long ago. I have a friend who deals strictly with Cubans and I will occasionally get a Cohiba he recommends, I think the Siglo V was the last one he gave the thumbs up and it was pretty good just very expensive.

My bust Cigar would have to go to the CAO Vision. How they ever got on the CA Top 25 list seems criminal to me. I have tried to convince myself I like the cigar to no avail as I really wanted one of those jacked up neon humi’s.

]]> By: Dave hanifan http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/#comment-63304 Dave hanifan Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:38:21 +0000 http://www.stogiereview.com/?p=599#comment-63304 I think this type of article will always be controversial. Considering that cigars are often a matter of taste, one persons cherry is another lemon. So coupling that with the fact that we are talking about high priced cigars here, you've got yourself an explosive topic :) Most of the comments here are either about a flawed cigar, i.e. plugged etc, or about one that just wasn't to their taste. And spending a bunch of money on a cigar that is hyped up that does not taste to ones liking will leave the person disappointed at best. Take for example my comments on the Padron 80th. Now it's a good cigar in my opinion but they hyped it up so much and limited it's production to artificially jack up the cost. It's basically the same cigar as the 1926 series just in a BP Perfecto. Ok, neat. But it tastes no different then the 1926 series for twice the price. And the Perfecto size made the wrapper too thick in my opinion and it had burn issues. Take another example, the LX2 that is currently on the front page. Wow, talk about people that are disappointed. No manufacturer set's out to disappoint customers however, a double ligero is going to have a slim fan base under the best of conditions. So bam, check out all the negative comments. And as far as advice for new smokers, personally the best thing a new smoker could gleam from this thread is beware of high priced cigars in general. They rarely are worth the price tag. Dave I think this type of article will always be controversial. Considering that cigars are often a matter of taste, one persons cherry is another lemon. So coupling that with the fact that we are talking about high priced cigars here, you’ve got yourself an explosive topic :)

Most of the comments here are either about a flawed cigar, i.e. plugged etc, or about one that just wasn’t to their taste. And spending a bunch of money on a cigar that is hyped up that does not taste to ones liking will leave the person disappointed at best. Take for example my comments on the Padron 80th. Now it’s a good cigar in my opinion but they hyped it up so much and limited it’s production to artificially jack up the cost. It’s basically the same cigar as the 1926 series just in a BP Perfecto. Ok, neat. But it tastes no different then the 1926 series for twice the price. And the Perfecto size made the wrapper too thick in my opinion and it had burn issues.

Take another example, the LX2 that is currently on the front page. Wow, talk about people that are disappointed. No manufacturer set’s out to disappoint customers however, a double ligero is going to have a slim fan base under the best of conditions. So bam, check out all the negative comments.

And as far as advice for new smokers, personally the best thing a new smoker could gleam from this thread is beware of high priced cigars in general. They rarely are worth the price tag.

Dave

]]> By: Rich M http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/#comment-63286 Rich M Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:13:18 +0000 http://www.stogiereview.com/?p=599#comment-63286 I'm going to add an ESG to this list had one a while back, and thank god It was a gift... It was nice, but give me a break... it is no where near worth the $20+pricetag. I've gotten more enjoyment out of my Edge Counterfeits. LkyLindy- opinions are like...well you know.. your comment (based on your statement) is just a worthless as the rest of them. Information is power... the more educated a novice smoker can be, the better decisions they can make. So what if a couple "experienced" smokers think a stick is overhyped and over priced? the novice still has free will to decide for themselves. were not holding a gun to anyone's head here. I’m going to add an ESG to this list

had one a while back, and thank god It was a gift…
It was nice, but give me a break… it is no where near worth the $20+pricetag.
I’ve gotten more enjoyment out of my Edge Counterfeits.

LkyLindy-
opinions are like…well you know..
your comment (based on your statement) is just a worthless as the rest of them. Information is power… the more educated a novice smoker can be, the better decisions they can make.
So what if a couple “experienced” smokers think a stick is overhyped and over priced? the novice still has free will to decide for themselves.

were not holding a gun to anyone’s head here.

]]> By: LkyLindy http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/#comment-63268 LkyLindy Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:56:16 +0000 http://www.stogiereview.com/?p=599#comment-63268 These comments are interesting BUT totally worthless to a novice cigar smoker.Some of my absolutely favorite smokes have been panned here.Obviously these comments are totally subjective and make for lively discussion but should not be used as a guide for a new cigar smoker.Such a person would be steered away from some of the finest smokes in existence today(Padron 64,Ashton VSg, (my bias of course) . These comments are interesting BUT totally worthless to a novice cigar smoker.Some of my absolutely favorite smokes have been panned here.Obviously these comments are totally subjective and make for lively discussion but should not be used as a guide for a new cigar smoker.Such a person would be steered away from some of the finest smokes in existence today(Padron 64,Ashton VSg, (my bias of course) .

]]> By: Phil http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/#comment-56657 Phil Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:18:49 +0000 http://www.stogiereview.com/?p=599#comment-56657 The Tatuaje Gran Cojonu - This is one bad a#$ mother f&*&^ing looking cigar. No band, dark, bold, and rugged - not sure why but appearance wise its probably my all time favorite. For me it sort of encapsulated the essence of what a cigar should look like. And I remember I sat ga-ga eyed inspecting the cigar for at least 1/2 hr before lighting it up. But as far as the taste, nothing but leather, leather, and gobs of more leather. Its the one taste in a cigar that I really don't care for. If you are a fan of leather this cigar is for you. I'm a huge fan of Tatuaje and bought two boxes - doh! - hope they get better with time. The Tatuaje Gran Cojonu – This is one bad a#$ mother f&*&^ing looking cigar. No band, dark, bold, and rugged – not sure why but appearance wise its probably my all time favorite. For me it sort of encapsulated the essence of what a cigar should look like. And I remember I sat ga-ga eyed inspecting the cigar for at least 1/2 hr before lighting it up. But as far as the taste, nothing but leather, leather, and gobs of more leather. Its the one taste in a cigar that I really don’t care for. If you are a fan of leather this cigar is for you. I’m a huge fan of Tatuaje and bought two boxes – doh! – hope they get better with time.

]]> By: Rich M http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/#comment-55371 Rich M Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:10:49 +0000 http://www.stogiereview.com/?p=599#comment-55371 my biggest waste was on an LG Chisel.. $13 and nothing to show for it... boring flavors, and not really as strong as it was touted. Its because of that stick that the LG small batch II's that I bought the same day have yet to get cut. (don't know what I'm waiting for lol) Ian- you might get better response from questions if you pop in to the forums and post. btw... I much prefer the Naturals in every one of the Padron anniverssary lines, but like the maduros in the regular series. my biggest waste was on an LG Chisel.. $13 and nothing to show for it… boring flavors, and not really as strong as it was touted. Its because of that stick that the LG small batch II’s that I bought the same day have yet to get cut. (don’t know what I’m waiting for lol)

Ian- you might get better response from questions if you pop in to the forums and post. btw… I much prefer the Naturals in every one of the Padron anniverssary lines, but like the maduros in the regular series.

]]> By: Ian F. http://www.stogiereview.com/2008/05/27/high-priced-flops-which-one-do-you-regret-most/#comment-55364 Ian F. Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:12:57 +0000 http://www.stogiereview.com/?p=599#comment-55364 For those of you who said the Padron 1964 was a bit of a let down did you have a maduro wrapped cigar or the natural. I ask because I've had two maduro 1964's I thought that they were pretty good but I can't say the same for the two natural 1964's. Also I liked the one Camacho Triple maduro that I had and though it burned and tasted great ...that being said all these negative comments may keep me from purchasing another; I mean they are a bit overpriced and it seems I had a good one. For those of you who said the Padron 1964 was a bit of a let down did you have a maduro wrapped cigar or the natural. I ask because I’ve had two maduro 1964′s I thought that they were pretty good but I can’t say the same for the two natural 1964′s. Also I liked the one Camacho Triple maduro that I had and though it burned and tasted great …that being said all these negative comments may keep me from purchasing another; I mean they are a bit overpriced and it seems I had a good one.

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